Maybe you were blocked from the "Why I hate religion". Anyway I replied to one post you put up. I've put your original post in this message followed by my post in reply. I don't know where you get your arguements from but you need to do more research otherwise it leads me to believe somebody has argued these things to you and you've simply taken it as, well, "gospel", rather than looking for other opinions or supporting evidence.

Anyway Your Post.

The universe is a mortal, finite thing. If it had always been, physics would not be real because everything except the supernatural (God) has to have a cause, if not then why don't unexplained things happen randomly all over the universe like planets appearing, or black holes forming out of nothing? Planets are made of rock. Rock is a finite thing, and all finite things are made of matter. The law of thermodynamics states that matter and energy can not be created nor destroyed. So rock can only be created by a supernatural force that physics don't apply to, and don't say nature be cause that is natural and earthly. Black holes need for a sun to collapse, they don't just pop up. They need a cause. The popular theory is that matter was created during the big-bang, but this would cancel out the law of thermodynamics and ultimately physics. We see that physics are here so that must mean that matter was not created by nothing and that the universe must have been created by God. You try to create something from nothing. If this were even possible the world would be full of matter and energy which would destroy everything. But of course if something could be created from nothing it could also turn back into nothing, but we haven't seen anything vanish into thin air yet, have we?

The Bible says nothing about there being no dinosaurs. They were probably able to survive before Adam and Eve sinned, and they lived hundreds of years. Afterwards, the earth changed, that is probably how they died. I can understand why Adam and Eve wanted to stay in the garden with dinosaurs around. If you say that there were millions of dinosaurs, you have no way to prove that, the fossil count only goes to a couple hundred thousand which is enough to cover the earth for just one year, that is in all the regions they have been found. If you say that carbon dating can prove Christianity wrong, well have you ever though about the effect water has on materials. When God created the earth there was probably not enough moisture in the atmosphere to support rain. After hundreds of years, water evaporated and it finally rained. With all the water found on land and in the sky you know that much water could flood the earth. That is where the great flood comes in. At the line where the fossil count stops, dried mud and shells can be found underground. Water also has an extreme effect on rock (which is what most fossils are made of, e.g. sediments seep into the bone and forms a fossil, which also means that fossils need water to form, so in deserts where there is no water, something had to happen, e.g. the great flood.) It can render carbon dating utterly useless. That is why scientists will use no fossil found in water for carbon dating, except for shells because of their chemical makeup.

Evolution is almost impossible. An Atheistic math major one wrote, "If you were to throw a grain of sand out into the dessert and ask your friend to find it twice, that would equal the same amount luck needed for life to come from a group of gases, and that still wouldn't explain life." Watch Ben Stine's "Expelled" for more info.

Did you know that two of the links in the evolutionary chain were just based on a tooth and a femur?

Morals would also be an issue. Do you think that monkeys have morals, no! One species of monkeys (the females in which) prostitutes themselves for food. They sling feces. If we came from monkeys, how did we get morals? I know you might say that someone eventually thought of them and spread their idea, but how did everyone in the world get morals? Even some children? (Most are immature because of age.)

No. The sciences that existed before Darwin never contradicted God. Theories have been brought up that do contradict God, but none have been proven yet. They are still just theories. In fact, these new theories contradict physics, as I said in the first paragraph.

Actually, Atheism has to have faith to. You have to believe that something came from nothing. As I stated in the first paragraph. It doesn't make any sense at all.

As I said, the great flood rendered carbon dating useless, and don't say that it is a matter of opinion weather or not the flood happened. The fossil record show us because it ends right under a layer of old mud, sediments, and shells. Also all fossils need water to become fossils. How did water get into the middle of the desert? The only way that could happen is by a flood.
What I'm trying to say is that fossils can't tell us how old the earth is. The Bible may also have many details about the age of people in it, but not everyone who ever lived is listed in the Bible. There are probably hundreds of generations skipped, but then again, there might just be few. We will never know how old the earth is.

I thank you (dark-blood-may) for posting this comment. You have really helped me remember a lot of my notes I haven't looked at in years. God bless you.

My reply

First time I'd read this bit. It contains a hell of a lot of twisting arguements. I'll try and address things in the order of your posting.

Unexplained things do happen all over the universe. The most obvious being gravity. Physics also has yet to explain exactly what happened at the time of the Big Bang. Like Gravity all we can do at the moment is observe it's effects, the ever expanding universe and the background noise that scientists believe to have come from the Big Bang. Atheists don't have to have faith in something coming from nothing, atheists just have to believe that science has yet to fully explain the origins of the universe. That's it. It's worth noting that a lot of the "rules" of Physics were thrown out of the window when we discovered how supercooled materials operated, and when we observed how materials such as Gold work at microscopic levels. The Laws of physics shift as discoveries are made. The theory that the Big Bang created Matter would not cancel out the law of thermodynamics and ultimately physics, it would just require us to rethink our current understanding of physics, as has happened many times in the past. Earth being flat, planets orbiting the sun not the earth, Gravity etc etc.

Your arguement that if something came from nothing things should be turning back into nothing all the time. Hmm well in the whole of time as far as we can observe there has only been one example where we might come to the conclusion that something came from nothing (that's not what people actually think happened at the big bang [link] but anyway) If in the whole of time only one thing appeared without an explantation, then in the same period you would expect maybe 1 thing to disappear. Now we cannot see more than half of the matter of the universe, so there's something that's disappeared, and then there's that piece of chocolate cake I had in the Fridge that simply vanished. So things do disappear, or if they haven't been seen to diseappear yet I'm not surprised as the case of things maybe just appearing has only happened once in the whole of observable time, which makes it a little well...rare.

The Bible also doesn't mention Adam kicking back and listening to his ipod, being the first to develop the moon walk, developing a liking for opium whilst talking to his alien buddies and lots of things. You can't argue through the Bible failing to mention things that the things happened, eg Dinosaurs, that's just crazy talk. If there had have been 60 foot tall, 120 foot long creatures roaming around, you'd have thought they'd maybe have gotten a little mention.

The fossil count only goes up to 200,000. I have yet to confirm this "fact". But is is a small percentage of animals that turn into fossils, not even 1% and then it's a small percentage of the earth that has been excavated. Maybe 0.01%. So if we work with those 3 numbers we get to a likely number of fossils yet to be found of 200 billion and I'm using very rough and probably over optimistic figures. 99% of fossilised creatures discovered aren't around today. Does that mean God got it wrong a lot? People talk about fossilised shell fish being at the top of Everest, therefore it must have been flooded in the great flood. This is gibberish. Yes sea fossils are found in high up places, but this is because of the shifting of tectonic plates and the rising up of mountains from former seabeds, not because sediment is layed down at the top of mountains to create fossils

Okay moisture in the atmosphere taking hundreds of years to evaporate???? That's just bizarre. If you have a hot spell, you can expect a storm in maybe a week, from all the evaporated water. The atmosphere is not large enough to hold the quantity of water necessary for a world wide flood. If it tried, the weight of water held in the clouds would trigger rainfall way before the volume required for a world wide flood was reached and the massive amount of cloud would stop the sun evaporating further amounts of water. In order for the atmosphere to hold enough water to flood the world the temperature would have to have been too hot to sustain human life. [link]

Okay Carbon dating. Bearing in mind that there are at least 6 different methods of fossilisation and you've only addressed how water supposedly renders one method of fossilisation useless for Carbon Dating. What about the other 5? Preservation through drying, freezing, preservation in amber, tar and carbonisation.

If their were infinite friends and they had an infinite amount of time to find it then yes it is possible. It only has to happen once. Anyway, scientists have put together "primordial soups" of gases and have observed the production of the building blokes of amino acids essential for life within years and not over massive periods of time. You say yourself "evolution is ALMOST impossible", so what you are actually saying if I reverse your statement is "evolution is possible".

Morals, hmm, it's hard to define what morals are other than an accepted way of interacting with other individuals. These monkeys seem to have an accepted way of doing that, a gorilla pick bugs and fleas off of another gorilla they then swap, and the gorilla returns the favour. A monkey offers sex in return for food. A bloke takes a girl out for a meal and a show, he gets sex in return if the girl is easy, or he gets a wife in the long term to give him children and help raise them. Not much of a difference.

It is not a matter of opinion that the flood happened. It's obvious it didn't. [link] , [link] I couldn't find anything on any website mentioning the fossil record ending under layers of mud and shells.

Your statement that all fossils need water is incorrect, only 1 of the 6 ways I know require water. How did water get into the middle of the desert. Hmm, rain maybe? Deserts can be one of the most verdant places on earth at the right time of year. Plus there is always moisture which is all that Permineralization fossils really need. Animals and plants wouldn't survive in deserts without some form of water.

I can't see any of the generations skipped that you are talking about, but you have already agreed to provide me with evidence of these gaps.

A lot of your notes weren't worth remembering as they are simply wrong. What dark-blood-may has given you though is the opportunity to revise your notes and readdress your arguements logically.

Nope

I'm sure I would, but I haven't yet found out how.

No Blocking here.